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Alexandra Kenney: Everyone we're going to get started now so hello, and welcome to today's webinar it's titled getting started with red hat open shift service on aws and red hat training.
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Alexandra Kenney: My name is Alexandra i'll be your MC for the next hour and thank you for joining the conversation.
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Alexandra Kenney: So today's webinar is being recorded and a copy of the session will be sent to all registrants at the end of the week.
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Alexandra Kenney: today's speaker is john Walter solutions architect training and certification at red hat.
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Alexandra Kenney: john is a solutions architect for the red hat training and certification team specializing in cloud and devops technologies he's a red hat certified architect with deep knowledge of the red hat enterprise Linux and simple automation and the open shift container platform.
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John Walter: All right, well, thank you for that warm introduction again i'm john Walter solutions architect for the training, certification team here at red hat i've been at.
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John Walter: Red hat for about six years now, and a few different roles, but within the last three years.
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John Walter: Covering our training and certification team and I apologize, it sounds like there's an ambulance specified by my house, so the the joys of working from home.
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John Walter: So today we're going to be talking about red hat open shift service on aws and a couple of the other manage open shift and and self managed open shift offerings that are available, as well as how you can get started red hat training.
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John Walter: If you're not familiar with open shift or with Cooper 90s, will give kind of a brief introduction to that you know why a lot of organizations are starting to move towards.
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John Walter: A Community platforms like open shift will talk a lot about you know different ways that open shift.
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John Walter: works with aws obviously pretty much the largest cloud platform out there and then towards the end we'll talk a little bit about ways that you can get started actually.
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John Walter: working towards training and certifying on open shift, we will have time for questions at the end so make sure if you do have questions throughout you're dropping them in that Q amp a.
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John Walter: portion within zoom and we'll be able to address those towards the end so without further ado let's get started.
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John Walter: really like I said we're going to start really kind of setting the stage on what open shift is and really if you're familiar with Cooper daddy's but you're not familiar with open shift.
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John Walter: Open shift is really a smarter Cooper nettie platform built for the enterprise, you know, we know that.
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John Walter: And what we hear from customers, you know around the world, is that you know their ability to create value for their end customers, whether that be internal customers, you know health employees or their actual external customers.
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John Walter: And all depends on their ability to deliver their applications more quickly, efficiently.
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John Walter: To be able to scale and containers and Cooper nettie is really fundamentally enables devops devops adoption is really skyrocketed with the proliferation of container technologies.
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John Walter: microservices cloud native application development, all of these things have been really enabled based on on containerization and really Cooper nettie says container orchestration and.
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John Walter: And red hat certainly believes that you know open shift is the best platform to deliver these applications across a hybrid cloud.
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John Walter: Now Cooper nettie is on its own is a really fantastic tool for container orchestration but I wouldn't call it a complete solution it's not really built for the enterprise.
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John Walter: You know what it does, really, really well is container orchestration but what it doesn't do are a lot of other things right.
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John Walter: You know, installing Cooper 90s and playing around with it for many is is really not that big of an issue, I would say that you can download.
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John Walter: and install Cooper daddy's and have a cluster running you know, on your own hardware, really, really quickly probably about 15 minutes, quite honestly.
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John Walter: But getting it really ready for production to run those business critical applications for your enterprise takes a lot lot more right.
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John Walter: You know, there are a bunch of different things that need to be piece together and tested and harder and for operations.
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John Walter: And that's and that's again like a self managed communities installation we'll talk obviously about you know manage open shift and just a little bit.
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John Walter: But as an example, take identity management identity management is not a component built in natively to Cooper 90s so with Cooper nettie is you know you're providing a lot of access to you know critical internal systems.
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John Walter: Whether that's to your employees to your partners to your to your end customers.
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John Walter: And so you have to adhere to the security rules that you have established within your organization and the way to do that just in terms of identity management is to.
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John Walter: build an error right and integration between quran at ease and, whatever your company's you know approved l gap is.
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John Walter: In order to do that, you have to have knowledge of.
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John Walter: Something like dex dex is an open source identity system, you have to have knowledge of Cooper daddy's which obviously if you're just starting with Cooper 90s, you may not have.
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John Walter: And then obviously knowledge of the integration systems to your company's l dap.
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John Walter: you'll also need to have visibility into like logging things like that, so you need to hook up.
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John Walter: Something like previous and other Open Source monitoring and alerting tool.
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John Walter: so that you can have full visibility into your company's operations and testing and in production and that's just one piece right that's just identity management these things don't come.
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John Walter: You know, with vanilla Cooper daddy's out of the box now Cooper daddy's provides a lot of pluggable interfaces but you'll see on this slide.
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John Walter: This is a map of all the cloud native components that you need to choose from in order to run like an enterprise grade Cooper nettie use and i'm not sure that you can see my cursor but.
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John Walter: here on the left side in this orchestration and management side that's where Cooper nettie sleeves and there are components of Cooper nettie is that are included, like at CD is a component of Cooper nettie.
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John Walter: cryo the container runtime to actually run these containers as a part of Cooper daddy's as well, but you know I mentioned.
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John Walter: Identity management as a piece, what about you know continuous integration and delivery tools, what about security, what about storage all of these are different components that.
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John Walter: have to be integrated into a vanilla Cooper natives platform in order to actually run within production.
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John Walter: i'll leave this on the screen just for a second, because I think this is one of the most fascinating things to look at if you're interested, this is just an interactive landscape, if you go to l dot cnc f.io.
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John Walter: You can actually take a look at this that the latest version of the map, I took this screenshot I believe.
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John Walter: Earlier or late last week, so this is probably pretty up to date, but really what you're seeing a cloud native computing foundation there the.
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John Walter: The Open Source governing body that's home to Cooper nettie.
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John Walter: This is essentially what their first project was red hat, other than Google, who is the main sponsor of Cooper 90s, is the is the largest contributor to.
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John Walter: The communities projects so red hat obviously has a lot of stake and a lot of knowledge in all of these different Open Source projects but but really to kind of drive home right vanilla Cooper nettie services they're they're not.
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John Walter: they're not things that you really should be focusing your time on that's why a lot of organizations are moving towards.
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John Walter: more of a Cooper nettie platform something like open shift or you know, obviously, a lot of the other vendors out there have their own kind of alternative to open shift but.
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John Walter: What you want out of the box is a platform that's built around Cooper nettie is as a service that includes all these other individual services right you don't want to have to.
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John Walter: upscale your team on containerization on Cooper nettie as well as integrating security and networking and storage and how are we going to store all of these container images.
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John Walter: In a in a public or private registry, how are we going to integrate ci CD tooling What about a service mesh you know all of these different things.
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John Walter: You can do on your own you know if you were running a.
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John Walter: Really small business, I always give the example of like my.
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John Walter: My dad is a real estate appraiser and so when he asked me to tell build them a website and he told me the features you needed to have need to be able to take payments you wanted to be able to have scheduling.
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John Walter: Obviously it's a web server itself, so you know Those are three different services that as kind of a project for myself, I just build this containers.
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John Walter: Now for myself, you know my dad I would say he's successful but in terms of his own successes just running a one man business, you know, he may have.
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John Walter: You know 10 or 15 or 20 clients at any given time that's something that is easy to manage across just a few different containers it doesn't really require.
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John Walter: All of these different services, you know i'm not pushing application commits every single day I don't really need a lot of visibility to what's going on.
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John Walter: So you know for me quote unquote enterprise it's it's really a very, very small scale, but obviously when you're working for you know, a larger organization, you may be running.
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John Walter: Thousands or 10s of thousands of applications simultaneously and each of these different pieces each of these different components these individual services.
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John Walter: are really, really critical for running and making this an enterprise grade platform and so that's really where open shift comes into play, and some of these other like enterprise grade Cooper 90s distributions.
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John Walter: Open shift really provides all these individual services are needed to make this platform, so that you don't have to focus on actually building the platform.
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John Walter: Now open shift out of the box, when we talk about open shift and we'll get into this in just a little bit, but we're really talking about a few different flavors of open shift.
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John Walter: Right now we're kind of looking at a self manage open shift, or what we call open shift container platform, this is where.
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John Walter: you're operating it yourself you're deploying it, you know, on on really any given infrastructure, maybe this is something that you want to have running.
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John Walter: Within on premise within your own data Center maybe it's something that you want to have running on you know multiple clouds, whether public or private.
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John Walter: And the way that you're able to interact and work with open shift across each of these different infrastructures is going to be the same.
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John Walter: The same kind of skill set you need, for you know initial deployment for ongoing operations.
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John Walter: There are a lot of organizations that are really lacking the skill set around communities, you know their developers are already starting to you know get spun up on building cloud native applications.
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John Walter: And they're starting to go through the efforts of containers containerizing or even breaking down some of their monolithic applications and building microservices.
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John Walter: But on the administration operations side you know they don't yet have the skill set and that's why they're turning to organizations like red hat to help train them or they're going out and buying you know folks that are coming equipped with that skill set.
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John Walter: These this can be costly right and that's where organizations are really starting to turn towards a managed solution where they can really rely on subject matter experts at red hat or at.
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John Walter: aws which we'll talk about in just a little bit to really get them started quickly, where they can really start delivering in that business value building out applications and just worrying about adapting to this platform, much more efficiently.
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John Walter: And to kind of drive the point home, you know we work with these different upstream communities, you know just like we have been for the last 25 plus years with Linux.
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John Walter: we're also contributing to all of these other upstream communities, if you think back to that slide with all the different Cooper nettie projects, you know we work with each of these communities, when they are.
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John Walter: You know, ready to make commitments commits on a specific version of our product, we then go through, we harden it we add you know security enhancements feature enhancements.
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John Walter: And then we bake that into our open shift and that's what we shipped to our customers and so you know we're providing you know service level agreements we're providing.
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John Walter: lifecycle management and with something like a managed solution we're providing even more and so we'll jump right into that now open shift native aws I think.
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John Walter: You know we'll talk about a few different ways that you know red hat and aws have partner together to provide open shift, both as a product or as a platform, and also as a service.
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John Walter: So to kind of take a step back before we really dive into you know what red hat open shift service on aws is I think it's important to provide a little bit of a.
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John Walter: background on really what open shift is right, so when we talk about open shift we're typically talking about open shift container platform, and this is.
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John Walter: You know, a platform for building and running running you know container based applications if virtual machines with that enterprise grade Cooper 90s right and what we're talking about is like you know accelerated innovation right, you know open shift, a lot of you know, provides.
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John Walter: or allows businesses to really innovate and iterate in shorter cycles so they're able to really deliver you know, rich or higher quality experiences to their internal and external users.
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John Walter: it's a flexible and comprehensive platform right, so it gives that comprehensive but flexible platform, it gives businesses the agility to execute on their.
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John Walter: You know, different strategies using infrastructure and frameworks and technologies that they choose right, so you know you have the flexibility to run open shift on really any infrastructure of your choosing because.
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John Walter: what's sitting on top of that is a container grade version of Linux, which is the standardized platform that's running across all the different infrastructure.
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John Walter: And again, you know it is built on Cooper 90s right and so you're able to build and operate applications with the confidence of knowing that underneath the hood is still Cooper 90s, although you know what we're providing On top of that, are you know ease of management.
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John Walter: Continuous security through the application lifecycle enterprise support back obviously by by years of experience that red hat has with container technologies Cooper nettie.
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John Walter: From you know, obviously, the largest open source organization in the world.
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John Walter: And we have a lot of that authority, as I mentioned before, because red hat is other than again Google, the main sponsor Cooper daddy's we are the largest contributing.
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John Walter: contributor to the Cooper daddy's project and a lot of other you know Linux and container and cloud native computing communities and projects.
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John Walter: And so, all this is really meant to you know allow our customers to adopt a really reliable secure core platform, you know standardizing on the right IT platforms.
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John Walter: You know, for.
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John Walter: You know the rest of your enterprise can help you avoid you know vendor or technology lock in or service disruption or cost escalation security breaches compliance issues you know we we've been working with a lot of our partners like aws like Microsoft, to provide a really stable platform.
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John Walter: And we've been working with every best for the last 510 years to provide rel as a service of consumable service within aws so that you can run.
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John Walter: Your your real servers across all kinds of different data centers and across the hybrid cloud red hat has been a major contributor and kind of LEADER with.
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John Walter: Making initiatives towards the hybrid cloud and open shift is certainly kind of the platform that we are you know really all in on as far as serving as that basis for these workloads running across a hybrid cloud.
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John Walter: Now what aws is providing you know, on the flip side is is a really high performance scalable and comprehensive cloud platform.
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John Walter: Availability being a huge piece of this race aws provides this this mesh of geographically dispersed availability zones and transit centers that ensure your reliability, without increasing latency, especially when we get into you know customer use cases like.
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John Walter: You know, providing their own cloud, we talked about like multi tenancy we talked about edge computing you know, making sure the applications are running as close to the edge as possible.
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John Walter: This is something that at the aws provides really out of the box that you know something like open shift.
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John Walter: is really you know tuned to run these applications, the edge, but at us makes it even easier with something like availability zones.
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John Walter: elasticity you know aws lets you adapt to changing demand by automatically provisioning and retire and resources as needed and and that comes in conjunction with a lot of the features that Cooper daddy's provides you know scalability Alaska elasticity elastic ability as an hour.
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John Walter: You know all of these are things that open shift as a platform provides but aws is able to really, really kind of fine tune and home.
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John Walter: agility right aws lets you run both existing and cloud based applications and integrate new technologies, quickly and easily.
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John Walter: And then security there's built in security features and more than 50 different compliance certifications and accreditations that allow you to protect your applications and environment, so what.
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John Walter: What open shift and aws can provide together a really all the you know benefits of open shift and having this you know vendor neutral scaling scalable platform running on you know the highest performing and scalable comprehensive cloud platform that's out there.
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John Walter: And so what we provide is really three different consumption models for open shift the first of which that we'll talk about actually start from the right and kind of work, our way to the left.
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John Walter: But we have obviously open shift container platform, and you can run open shift on top of aws in a self managed fashion, this means that you're.
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John Walter: You know, essentially buying a open shift from red hat.
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John Walter: And then yourself you're deploying it on to infrastructure that is within aws your administrating yourself you're relying on aws for the infrastructure piece, but you are managing open shift as a platform on its own.
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John Walter: And I would say that there are going to be use cases really for all three of these.
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John Walter: The big one, I would say, for open shift container platform it really depends on your use case.
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John Walter: I gave the example, a little bit early on, but maybe you are like a TELCO and you need to provide you need to build essentially your own public cloud that's going to be consumed by your customers and their workloads.
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John Walter: And so you want to probably have a lot more say in the actual ongoing operations of the Platform, you want to be able to customize the deployment, you probably having it run across multiple.
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John Walter: clusters on multiple maybe on multiple clouds you want to be able to have open shift running simultaneously.
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John Walter: You know, on bare metal within your own data Center but you also want to have it available on top of aws where you have more availability more scalability.
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John Walter: And and not be as rely on you know aws is a pricing model so that would be one example where maybe you would run a run a self managed.
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John Walter: Deployment of open shift, but still have that running on aws the second would be open shift dedicated and this is a fully managed by red hat on aws infrastructure.
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John Walter: you're buying you know your subscription through red hat, you have your infrastructure purchase through either red hat or aws.
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John Walter: But again now you're handing over the operations of the actual platform to.
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John Walter: To red hat right, you have essentially our site reliability engineers that are managing the services.
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John Walter: And really what you're doing from from your organization side is building the applications you're deploying the applications.
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John Walter: there's monitoring and charge back and show that capabilities that are built in the platform, but you aren't having to rely on you know your operations team to really carry the load.
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John Walter: When it comes to operating the platform.
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John Walter: The third piece here and, again, working from right to left so on the far left here is really kind of the meat and potatoes what we're going to be talking today.
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John Walter: about which is red hat open shift service on aws, this is a red hat and aws jointly managed and supported solution.
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John Walter: Access is through the aws console it's all invoiced as part of your aws bill.
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John Walter: And, and the actual ongoing or initial deployment and ongoing operations of the platform is handling both jointly.
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John Walter: By red hat and aws and so really you're kind of getting the best of both worlds when it comes to that you're able to build and deploy and manage.
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John Walter: We do offer a lot of training around open shift now for a managed open shift you're really just going to be looking at this developer track.
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John Walter: And, and one of our higher level operations courses I mentioned before, that there are still things that you have to manage within Rosa but you're really shrinking down your your your responsibilities to just a couple components right, you know, putting in like role based access, controls.
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John Walter: You know, managing the application lifecycle the application piece is really where your team comes into play, whereas everything that's that's tied to the platform is going to be managed by aws and by red hat and conjunction and so.
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John Walter: You know, we do offer a introduction level course that that gets teams familiar with containerization that gets them, you know building containers understanding the relationship between Cooper nettie says container orchestration and open shift.
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John Walter: All these things that fall on the development side of the House to really get them started and and and you know throughout the lifecycle ongoing with building these applications.
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John Walter: For open shift now For those of you that may be interested in more of a self managed open shift side.
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John Walter: The open shift administration three core scaling communities deployments in the enterprise that's more of your day to operations, we get into know logging and metrics and get OPS workflows.
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John Walter: You know, some topics that are still going to be very, very relevant and interesting to those of you that may be working in a in a managed open shift as well.
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John Walter: And then we do offer a couple labs around installation different methods of installation across you know different clouds are bare metal on.
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John Walter: And then For those of you that may be coming from open shift three migrated over to, for we do have a migration lab that walks you through the actual cluster migration, as well as.
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John Walter: The migration tool kit for the applications running on that cluster as well.
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John Walter: In addition to each of these different courses, I did see a question in there earlier around certification.
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John Walter: I can't speak to any of the pricing or anything like that, but we do offer certifications across all of these different use cases, whether it be.
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John Walter: At the container Cooper 90s level at you know, a open shift cluster management level, and obviously across multiple development courses as well we do offer certifications for each of those courses.
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John Walter: we do now have the ability to do remote certification as well, so if you're still in a location where maybe one of our testing centers hasn't opened yet.
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John Walter: You do have the flexibility to take that on your own hardware at home, no need to install anything you're actually just booting from a USB drive.
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John Walter: We provide an image for you that you boot into to you're able to take that from the comfort of your own home and with that i'll kick it back over to you, and then we can jump into the Q amp a.
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Alexandra Kenney: So thank you all so much we had some great questions come in so we'll try to get through all of them, these last few minutes john the first one, I think it's why choose open shift and versus rancher.
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John Walter: yeah so you know it's really good question I would say it's a really.
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John Walter: i'm probably a more biased person to answer as well, I would say that rancher is a tool for managing Cooper daddy's clusters, whereas open shift is more of an actual Cooper daddy's distribution.
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John Walter: Obviously we so rancher is more like a like in house Cooper nettie something like Ek s or gk each one of those other kind of cloud hosted Cooper daddy's distributions.
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John Walter: ETS aka es are probably the big to whereas open shift is more of an actual Cooper nettie is distribution and can run all those different clouds.
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John Walter: I would say, open shift is more feature heavy and as much more to a much more of a customizable platform than rancher is going to be.
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John Walter: From a pricing perspective, I really couldn't say you know if there's going to be use cases where I believe ranch or maybe less expensive but I honestly I couldn't say but really it just comes down to.
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John Walter: One as a platform versus one is kind of a managed platform as well.
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Alexandra Kenney: Great next question once on open shift on Prem What would the cloud onboarding be should the movie done gradually.
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John Walter: yeah that's that's an interesting question, I think you know it really all depends on the.
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John Walter: On the workloads themselves right, so you know if you have open shift on Prem and you're wanting to move towards those workloads being on a cloud hosted.
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John Walter: version of open shift it's really easy to move those applications across the different data centers were from an on Prem data Center on the cloud right I mentioned.
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John Walter: Usually I would say that the move should be done gradually, but the benefit of containerized workloads is there's a standardized format right and so no matter where.
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John Walter: Where your platform is actually located, no matter what the infrastructure is it standardizing on platform rel a real core os and then those containers themselves are standardized as well, so.
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John Walter: You know we're eliminating the kind of issue of you know it worked on my environment wise i'm working on yours by design it's meant to work, the same across both of those environments so in theory.
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John Walter: It shouldn't have to be a gradual change, in fact, we have a lot of customers now who are as they're migrating from open shift three to four they're also migrating infrastructure they're moving away from on Prem to one of these.
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John Walter: Either cloud hosted or cloud managed open shift flavors in doing so they're immediately migrating all their workloads from one to the other and and from a.
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John Walter: Experience standpoint, it should be identical right, so I don't think that there's a right or wrong answer to that.
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John Walter: i'm inclined to be a little more old school and and want to have kind of both running and existing simultaneously so that, especially on the development side, I can you start to see if there any kind of differences across the different platforms, but, in theory, there should not be a difference.
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Alexandra Kenney: Is red hat offering open shift as a service or product.
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John Walter: To both both you know open shift container platform is open shift as a product in open shift that you're managing yourself, whereas open shift.
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John Walter: Rossa red hat open shift service on aws is really more a consumption based model or even open shift dedicated is really more of a service right, so it is.
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John Walter: Because we were taking the management of the Platform off of table for you, you know off of your workload, it really is more a consumption based model and you're really you know able to.
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John Walter: view open shift as a service, whereas open shift container platform, the differentiator there is that you're managing the platform yourself.
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John Walter: You know you're managing updates and the entire lifecycle from a platform perspective, and so you know you're you're, the answer is both it really just depends on on how you're deploying.
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Alexandra Kenney: Another person asks Could you also comment on the on the docker is not being and Kate support scope and should we continue to use docker as a service or on first.
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John Walter: Yes, so redhead has moved towards pod man as our container runtime.
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John Walter: From a experience standpoint from a command standpoint pod man and docker are are basically exactly the same in fact when we started to make this change, and this started really as a.
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John Walter: When we started to integrate this change, I went into my batch RC just alias Dr department, so that I could still continue to run.
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John Walter: it's the same thing, like with Cooper nettie and open shift if you're if you're used to Cooper 90s and working with vanilla Cooper daddy's you're used to the cube cpl.
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John Walter: command tree structure and all those different options all those map over to open shift, so if you're using the open shift coi it's just oC exactly the same thing.
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John Walter: There are certain things that or I should say artifacts within open shift that are a little bit different than Cooper nettie or at least their name different things negative spaces, is one of them.
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John Walter: I would say Cooper nettie still support stalker as far as i'm aware of red hat's enterprise Cooper 90s open shift that is is standardize on pod man now.
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Alexandra Kenney: we'll move on to the next one on Alaska city, who takes over open shift or aws.
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John Walter: it's going with Rosa aws is is kind of taking over for a plasticity with obviously open shift container platform all of the services and features are managed or a component of open shift.
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John Walter: The platform itself is relatively unchanged it's that we're now integrating a lot of these other aws services within Rosa and providing that you have full lifecycle support from a product or from a platform standpoint so.
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John Walter: pretty much all the public clouds support open shift Rosa is a specific.
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John Walter: managed a version of open shift that runs on aws and then there's also open shift on aws which is as a self managed version of open shift that.
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John Walter: Are not version of open shift but it's just the case of deploying open shift on aws there are other managed versions of open shift that run on the other, clouds so there's.
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John Walter: You can also deploy open shift on the Google cloud there's open shift on azure cloud there's also as your red hat open shift, which is again a managed version of open shift on the azure cloud so.
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John Walter: All the major cloud vendors and then you can also deploy on something like openstack which is red hat's cloud platform, so if you wanted to run it on a private cloud that you're managing yourself, you would have that that ability to do so as well.
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John Walter: And then I think that there was a follow up around like the difference between open shift from something like gk II.
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John Walter: You know, obviously you're getting a lot of the same benefits, but I think that the use cases are going to be slightly different were open shift is a fully featured platform versus versus.
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John Walter: Being able to just have you know, like a rancher or like a gk E or aka es or an e ks where you really just want Cooper nettie so as a service running.
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Alexandra Kenney: Excellent there were a few more questions we're not going to be able to get to, but we will follow up with the individuals who did ask those questions, so thank you, thank you to the red hat team john for an excellent presentation and for everyone for joining today Thank you so much.
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